Showing posts with label Rules to Live By. Show all posts
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Friday, June 02, 2017

The 36 Stratagems (三十六計/三十六计) - ancient Chinese military classic



Background

The Thirty-Six Stratagems have variably been attributed to Sun Tzu from the Spring and Autumn period of China, or Zhuge Liang of the Three Kingdoms period, but neither are regarded as the true author by historians. Instead, the prevailing view is that the Thirty-Six Stratagems may have originated in both written and oral history, with many different versions compiled by different authors throughout Chinese history. Some stratagems reference occurrences in the time of Sun Bin, approx. 150 years after Sun Wu's death.

The original hand-copied paperback that is the basis of the current version was believed to have been discovered in China's Shaanxi province, of an unknown date and author, and put into print by a local publisher in 1941. The Thirty-Six Stratagems only came to the public's attention after a review of it was published in the Chinese Communist Party's Guangming Daily newspaper on September 16, 1961. It was subsequently reprinted and distributed with growing popularity.

The Thirty-Six Stratagems are divided into a preface, six chapters containing six stratagems each, and an afterword that was incomplete with missing text. The first three chapters generally describe tactics for use in advantageous situations, whereas the last three chapters contain stratagems that are more suitable for disadvantageous situations. The original text of the Thirty-Six Stratagems has a laconic style that is common to Classical Chinese. Each proverb is accompanied by a short comment, no longer than a sentence or two, that explains how said proverb is applicable to military tactics. These 36 Chinese proverbs are related to 36 battle scenarios in Chinese history and folklore, predominantly of the Warring States period and the Three Kingdoms Period.

The Thirty-Six Stratagems consists of 6 chapters, each chapter consists of 6 stratagems.

Chapter 1: Winning Stratagems
  • (勝戰計/胜战计 Shèng zhàn jì)
  • How to win as a general.

Cross the sea without the emperor's knowledge
  • (瞞天過海/瞒天过海, Mán tiān guò hǎi)
  • Mask your real goals, by using the ruse of a fake goal, until the real goal is achieved. Tactically, this is known as an 'open feint': in front of everyone, you point west, when your goal is actually in the east.

Besiege Wèi to rescue Zhào
  • (圍魏救趙/围魏救赵, Wéi Wèi jiù Zhào)
  • When the enemy is too strong to be attacked directly, then attack something he holds dear. Know that he cannot be superior in all things. Somewhere there is a gap in the armour, a weakness that can be attacked instead. The idea here is to avoid a head-on battle with a strong enemy, and instead strike at his weakness elsewhere. This will force the strong enemy to retreat in order to support his weakness. Battling against the now tired and low-morale enemy will give a much higher chance of success.

Kill with a borrowed sword
  • (借刀殺人/借刀杀人, Jiè dāo shā rén)
  • Attack using the strength of another (in a situation where using one's own strength is not favourable). Trick an ally into attacking him, bribe an official to turn traitor, or use the enemy's own strength against him. The idea here is to cause damage to the enemy by getting a third party to do the deed.

Wait at leisure while the enemy labors
  • (以逸待勞/以逸待劳, Yǐ yì dài láo)
  • It is an advantage to choose the time and place for battle. In this way you know when and where the battle will take place, while your enemy does not. Encourage your enemy to expend his energy in futile quests while you conserve your strength. When he is exhausted and confused, you attack with energy and purpose. The idea is to have your troops well-prepared for battle, in the same time that the enemy is rushing to fight against you. This will give your troops a huge advantage in the upcoming battle, of which you will get to select the time and place.

Loot a burning house
  • (趁火打劫/趁火打劫, Chèn huǒ dǎ jié)
  • When a country is beset by internal conflicts, when disease and famine ravage the population, when corruption and crime are rampant, then it will be unable to deal with an outside threat. This is the time to attack. Keep gathering internal information about an enemy. If the enemy is currently in its weakest state ever, attack it without mercy and totally destroy it to prevent future troubles.

Make a sound in the east, then strike in the west
  • (聲東擊西/声东击西, Shēng dōng jī xī)
  • In any battle the element of surprise can provide an overwhelming advantage. Even when face to face with an enemy, surprise can still be employed by attacking where he least expects it. To do this you must create an expectation in the enemy's mind through the use of a feint. The idea here is to get the enemy to focus his forces in a location, and then attack elsewhere which would be weakly defended.

Chapter 2: Enemy Dealing Stratagems
  • (敵戰計/敌战计, Dí zhàn jì)
  • How to deal with an opponent who is openly your enemy.

Create something from nothing
  • (無中生有/无中生有, Wú zhōng shēng yǒu)
  • A plain lie. Make somebody believe there was something when there is in fact nothing. One method of using this strategy is to create an illusion of something's existence, while it does not exist. Another method is to create an illusion that something does not exist, while it does.

Openly repair the gallery roads, but sneak through the passage of Chencang
  • (明修棧道,暗渡陳倉/明修栈道,暗渡陈仓, Míng xiū zhàn dào, àn dù Chéncāng)
  • Deceive the enemy with an obvious approach that will take a very long time, while surprising him by taking a shortcut and sneak up to him. As the enemy concentrates on the decoy, he will miss you sneaking up to him. This tactic is an extension of the "Make a sound in the east, then strike in the west" tactic. But instead of simply spreading misinformation to draw the enemy's attention, physical baits are used to increase the enemy's certainty on the misinformation. These baits must be easily seen by the enemy, to ensure that they draw the enemy's attention. At the same time, the baits must act as if they are meant to do what they were falsely doing, to avoid drawing the enemy's suspicion.
  • In the present day, "sneak through the passage of Chencang" also has the meaning of having an affair or doing something that is illegal.

Watch the fires burning across the river
  • (隔岸觀火/隔岸观火, Gé àn guān huǒ)
  • Delay entering the field of battle until all the other players have become exhausted fighting amongst themselves. Then go in at full strength and pick up the pieces.

Hide a knife behind a smile
  • (笑裏藏刀/笑里藏刀, Xiào lǐ cáng dāo)
  • Charm and ingratiate yourself with your enemy. When you have gained his trust, move against him in secret.

Sacrifice the plum tree to preserve the peach tree
  • (李代桃僵, Lǐ dài táo jiāng)
  • There are circumstances in which you must sacrifice short-term objectives in order to gain the long-term goal. This is the scapegoat strategy whereby someone else suffers the consequences so that the rest do not.

Take the opportunity to pilfer a goat
  • (順手牽羊/顺手牵羊, Shùn shǒu qiān yáng)
  • While carrying out your plans be flexible enough to take advantage of any opportunity that presents itself, however small, and avail yourself of any profit, however slight.

Chapter 3: Attacking Stratagems
  • (攻戰計/攻战计, Gōng zhàn jì)
  • Attacking plans

Stomp the grass to scare the snake
  • (打草驚蛇/打草惊蛇, Dá cǎo jīng shé)
  • Do something unaimed, but spectacular ("hitting the grass") to provoke a response of the enemy ("startle the snake"), thereby giving away his plans or position, or just taunt him. Do something unusual, strange, and unexpected as this will arouse the enemy's suspicion and disrupt his thinking. More widely used as "[Do not] startle the snake by hitting the grass". An imprudent act will give your position or intentions away to the enemy.

Borrow a corpse to resurrect the soul
  • (借屍還魂/借尸还魂, Jiè shī huán hún)
  • Take an institution, a technology, a method, or even an ideology that has been forgotten or discarded and appropriate it for your own purpose. Revive something from the past by giving it a new purpose or bring to life old ideas, customs, or traditions and reinterpret them to fit your purposes.

Lure the tiger off its mountain lair
  • (調虎離山/调虎离山, Diào hǔ lí shān)
  • Never directly attack an opponent whose advantage is derived from its position. Instead lure him away from his position thus separating him from his source of strength.

In order to capture, one must let loose
  • (欲擒故縱/欲擒故纵, Yù qín gū zòng)
  • Cornered prey will often mount a final desperate attack. To prevent this you let the enemy believe he still has a chance for freedom. His will to fight is thus dampened by his desire to escape. When in the end the freedom is proven a falsehood the enemy's morale will be defeated and he will surrender without a fight.

Tossing out a brick to get a jade gem
  • (拋磚引玉/抛砖引玉, Pāo zhuān yǐn yù)
  • Bait someone by making him believe he gains something or just make him react to it ("toss out a brick") and obtain something valuable from him in return ("get a jade gem").

Defeat the enemy by capturing their chief
  • (擒賊擒王/擒贼擒王, Qín zéi qín wáng)
  • If the enemy's army is strong but is allied to the commander only by money, superstition or threats, then take aim at the leader. If the commander falls the rest of the army will disperse or come over to your side. If, however, they are allied to the leader through loyalty then beware, the army can continue to fight on after his death out of vengeance.

Chapter 4: Chaos Stratagems
  • (混戰計/混战计)

Remove the firewood from under the pot
  • (釜底抽薪/釜底抽薪, Fǔ dǐ chōu xīn)
  • Take out the leading argument or asset of someone; "steal someone's thunder". This is the very essence of indirect approach: instead of attacking enemy's fighting forces, the attacks are directed against his ability to wage war.
  • Literally, take the fuel out of the fire.

Disturb the water and catch a fish
  • (渾水摸魚/浑水摸鱼 or 混水摸鱼, Hún shuǐ mō yú)
  • Create confusion and use this confusion to further your own goals.

Slough off the cicada's golden shell
  • (金蟬脱殼/金蝉脱壳, Jīn chán tuō qiào)
  • Mask yourself. Either leave one's distinctive traits behind, thus becoming inconspicuous, or masquerade as something or someone else. This strategy is mainly used to escape from enemy of superior strength.

Shut the door to catch the thief
  • (關門捉賊/关门捉贼, Guān mén zhuō zéi)
  • To capture your enemy, or more generally in fighting wars, to deliver the final blow to your enemy, you must plan prudently if you want to succeed. Do not rush into action. Before you "move in for the kill", first cut off your enemy's escape routes, and cut off any routes through which outside help can reach them.

Befriend a distant state and strike a neighbouring one
  • (遠交近攻/远交近攻, Yuǎn jiāo jìn gōng)
  • Invading nations that border your own territory has a higher chance of success. The battle fields are close to your own country, thus it is easier for your troops to get supply and to defend the conquered land. Make allies with nations far away from you, as it is unwise to invade them.

Obtain safe passage to conquer the State of Guo
  • (假道伐虢/假道伐虢, Jiǎ dào fá Guó)
  • Borrow the resources of an ally to attack a common enemy. Once the enemy is defeated, use those resources to turn on the ally that lent you them in the first place.

Chapter 5: Proximate Stratagems
  • (並戰計)

Replace the beams with rotten timbers
  • (偷梁換柱/偷梁换柱, Tōu liáng huàn zhù)
  • Disrupt the enemy's formations, interfere with their methods of operations, change the rules in which they are used to following, go contrary to their standard training. In this way you remove the supporting pillar, the common link that makes a group of men an effective fighting force.

Point at the mulberry tree while cursing the locust tree
  • (指桑罵槐/指桑骂槐, Zhǐ sāng mà huái)
  • To discipline, control, or warn others whose status or position excludes them from direct confrontation; use analogy and innuendo. Without directly naming names, those accused cannot retaliate without revealing their complicity.

Feign madness but keep your balance
  • (假痴不癲/假痴不癫, Jiǎ chī bù diān)
  • Hide behind the mask of a fool, a drunk, or a madman to create confusion about your intentions and motivations. Lure your opponent into underestimating your ability until, overconfident, he drops his guard. Then you may attack.

Remove the ladder when the enemy has ascended to the roof
  • (上屋抽梯, Shàng wū chōu tī)
  • With baits and deceptions, lure your enemy into treacherous terrain. Then cut off his lines of communication and avenue of escape. To save himself, he must fight both your own forces and the elements of nature.

Deck the tree with false blossoms
  • (樹上開花/树上开花, Shù shàng kāi huā)
  • Tying silk blossoms on a dead tree gives the illusion that the tree is healthy. Through the use of artifice and disguise, make something of no value appear valuable; of no threat appear dangerous; of no use appear useful.

Make the host and the guest exchange roles
  • (反客為主/反客为主, Fǎn kè wéi zhǔ)
  • Usurp leadership in a situation where you are normally subordinate. Infiltrate your target. Initially, pretend to be a guest to be accepted, but develop from inside and become the owner later.

Chapter 6: Desperate Stratagems
  • (敗戰計)

The beauty trap (Honeypot)
  • (美人計/美人计, Měi rén jì)
  • Send your enemy beautiful women to cause discord within his camp. This strategy can work on three levels. First, the ruler becomes so enamoured with the beauty that he neglects his duties and allows his vigilance to wane. Second, the group of men will begin to have issues if the desired women courts another man, thus creating conflict and aggressive behavior. Third, other females at court, motivated by jealousy and envy, begin to plot intrigues further exacerbating the situation.

The empty fort strategy
  • (空城計/空城计, Kōng chéng jì)
  • When the enemy is superior in numbers and your situation is such that you expect to be overrun at any moment, then drop all pretense of military preparedness, act calmly and taunt the enemy, so that the enemy will think you have a huge ambush hidden for them. It works best by acting calm and at ease when your enemy expects you to be tense. This ploy is only successful if in most cases you do have a powerful hidden force and only sparsely use the empty fort strategy.

Let the enemy's own spy sow discord in the enemy camp
  • (反間計/反间计, Fǎn jiàn jì)
  • Undermine your enemy's ability to fight by secretly causing discord between him and his friends, allies, advisors, family, commanders, soldiers, and population. While he is preoccupied settling internal disputes, his ability to attack or defend is compromised.

Inflict injury on oneself to win the enemy's trust
  • (苦肉計/苦肉计, Kǔ ròu jì)
  • Pretending to be injured has two possible applications. In the first, the enemy is lulled into relaxing his guard since he no longer considers you to be an immediate threat. The second is a way of ingratiating yourself with your enemy by pretending the injury was caused by a mutual enemy.

Chain stratagems
  • (連環計/连环计, Lián huán jì)
  • In important matters, one should use several stratagems applied simultaneously after another as in a chain of stratagems. Keep different plans operating in an overall scheme; however, in this manner if any one strategy fails, then the chain breaks and the whole scheme fails.

If all else fails, retreat
  • (走為上策/走为上策, Zǒu wéi shàng ce)
  • If it becomes obvious that your current course of action will lead to defeat, then retreat and regroup. When your side is losing, there are only three choices remaining: surrender, compromise, or escape. Surrender is complete defeat, compromise is half defeat, but escape is not defeat. As long as you are not defeated, you still have a chance. This is the most famous of the stratagems, immortalized in the form of a Chinese idiom: "Of the Thirty-Six Stratagems, fleeing is best" (三十六計,走为上計).


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Wednesday, May 17, 2017

The 19 Rules of Jason Bourne



In Robert Ludlum's Bourne series, we learn some of Jason Bourne's tradecraft rules. "Tradecraft" is the favored term over the older term "spycraft".


For your consideration, some rules/aspects of tradecraft can be used for the common man's self-defense. After all, a spy/secret agent, like the samurai of old, live with the possibility of death daily. They needed some rules of thumb for their survival.

Hope these help!



  1. You are not helpless. You will find your way. (The Bourne Identity pg 43, 88)
  2. Instinct. Follow your instincts, reasonably, of course. (The Bourne Identity pg 88)
  3. Don’t crucify yourself. (The Bourne Identity pg 43)
  4. Nothing can be disregarded. (The Bourne Identity pg 123)
  5. To blend in, change your appearance, your hair your face.
  6. Read the newspapers every day. (The Bourne Identity pg 174)
  7. Stay controlled. (The Bourne Identity pg 289)
  8. The success of any trap lies in its fundamental simplicity. The reverse trap by the nature of its single complication must be swift and simpler still. (The Bourne Identity pg 470)
  9. Use an advantage given to you. (The Bourne Supremacy pg 84)
  10. Do the unexpected. Confuse the enemy, throw him off balance. (The Bourne Supremacy pg 166)
  11. Don’t run. Running identifies you as a target.
  12. Opportunities will present themselves. Recognize them, act on them. (The Bourne Supremacy pg 390)
  13. Don’t make your moves when you’re tired or exhausted. Rest is a weapon. Use it. Don’t forget it. (The Bourne Supremacy pg 481)
  14. Work on the visual. It’s more effective than anything else. People will draw the conclusions you want on the basis of what they see far more than from the most convincing lies you can tell them.(The Bourne Supremacy pg 175)
  15. Study everything. You’ll find something you can use. (The Bourne Supremacy pg 501)
  16. The cleanest escape is one done in stages, using whatever confusion there is. (The Bourne Supremacy pg 179)
  17. Establish a benign contact as soon as you can. Especially in an unfamiliar face where there could be hostility. The contact could give you the opportunity or the time you need. (The Bourne Supremacy pg 222)
  18. Avoid elevators whenever you can. They’re traps. (The Bourne Supremacy pg 270)
  19. Your first reflections are the best, the most accurate, because the impressions are stored in your head, like the information in a data bank. That’s what your head is. (The Bourne Supremacy pg 270)


Deepest gratitude to Twist for compiling this list. I took the liberty to add page references where I could find them. Only missing 2 :(


Sunday, May 14, 2017

The 40 Moscow Rules



The "Moscow Rules" were developed by the CIA and named after Moscow which was a dangerous place to be during the Cold War.

One may think of them like “Rules of Engagement” for spies, although it could also serve as guidelines or rules of thumb for one's self-defense.

If you haven't any Rules of Engagement for yourself, start thinking of them now and not while you are in the Moment of Truth as the 'fit hits the shan'!

Hope these help in your Sojourn of Septillion Steps!




The Original Moscow Rules

Agent Tony Mendez wrote:

Although no one had written them down, they were the precepts we all understood for conducting operations in the most difficult of operating environments: the Soviet capital. By the time they got to Moscow, everyone knew these rules. They were dead simple and full of common sense.

In the International Spy Museum in Washington, D.C., the Moscow Rules are given as:

  1. Assume nothing.
  2. Never go against your gut.
  3. Everyone is potentially under opposition control.
  4. Do not look back; you are never completely alone.
  5. Go with the flow, blend in.
  6. Vary your pattern and stay within your cover.
  7. Lull them into a sense of complacency.
  8. Do not harass the opposition.
  9. Pick the time and place for action.
  10. Keep your options open.




The 40 Moscow Rules

  • Rule #1: Assume nothing.
  • Rule #2: Technology will always let you down.
  • Rule #3: Murphy is right.
  • Rule #4: Never go against your gut.
  • Rule #5: Always listen to your gut; it is your operational antennae.
  • Rule #6: Everyone is potentially under opposition control.
  • Rule #7: Don’t look back; you are never completely alone. Use your gut.
  • Rule #8: Go with the flow; use the terrain.
  • Rule #9: Take the natural break of traffic.
  • Rule #10: Maintain a natural pace.
  • Rule #11: Establish a distinctive and dynamic profile and pattern.
  • Rule #12: Stay consistent over time.
  • Rule #13: Vary your pattern and stay within your profile.
  • Rule #14: Be non threatening: keep them relaxed; mesmerize!
  • Rule #15: Lull them into a sense of complacency.
  • Rule #16: Know the opposition and their terrain intimately.
  • Rule #17: Build in opportunity but use it sparingly.
  • Rule #18: Don’t harass the opposition.
  • Rule #19: Make sure they can anticipate your destination.
  • Rule #20: Pick the time and place for action.
  • Rule #21: Any operation can be aborted; if it feels wrong, then it is wrong.
  • Rule #22: Keep your options open.
  • Rule #23: If your gut says to act, overwhelm their senses.
  • Rule #24: Use misdirection, illusion, and deception.
  • Rule #25: Hide small operative motions in larger non threatening motions.
  • Rule #26: Float like a butterfly; sting like bee.
  • Rule #27: When free, In Obscura, immediately change direction and leave the area.
  • Rule #28: Break your trail and blend into the local scene.
  • Rule #29: Execute a surveillance detection run designed to draw them out over time.
  • Rule #30: Once is an accident; twice is a coincidence; three times is an enemy action.
  • Rule #31: Avoid static lookouts; stay away from chokepoints where they can reacquire you.
  • Rule #32: Select a meeting site so you can overlook the scene.
  • Rule #33: Keep any asset separated from you by time and distance until it is time.
  • Rule #34: If the asset has surveillance, then the operation has gone bad.
  • Rule #35: Only approach the site when you are sure it is clean.
  • Rule #36: After the meeting or act is done, “close the loop” at a logical cover destination.
  • Rule #37: Be aware of surveillance’s time tolerance so they aren’t forced to raise an alert.
  • Rule #38: If an alert is issued, they must pay a price and so must you.
  • Rule #39: Let them believe they lost you; act innocent.
  • Rule #40: There is no limit to a human being’s ability to rationalize the truth.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moscow_rules
http://www.itstactical.com/intellicom/tradecraft/the-moscow-rules/


Saturday, November 19, 2016

Miyamoto Musashi's The "Way of Walking Alone" (aka 'Dokkodo')

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The "Way of Walking Alone" (aka 'Dokkodo') is the summary of Miyamoto Musashi's life, his will and his philosophy.


The 21 Precepts of Dokkodo are as follows:


1. Accept everything just the way it is.
2. Do not seek pleasure for its own sake.
3. Do not, under any circumstances, depend on a partial feeling.
4. Think lightly of yourself and deeply of the world.
5. Be detached from desire your whole life long.
6. Do not regret what you have done.
7. Never be jealous.
8. Never let yourself be saddened by a separation.
9. Resentment and complaint are appropriate neither for oneself or others.
10. Do not let yourself be guided by the feeling of lust or love.
11. In all things have no preferences.
12. Be indifferent to where you live.
13. Do not pursue the taste of good food.
14. Do not hold on to possessions you no longer need.
15. Do not act following customary beliefs.
16. Do not collect weapons or practice with weapons beyond what is useful.
17. Do not fear death.
18. Do not seek to possess either goods or fiefs for your old age.
19. Respect Buddha and the gods without counting on their help.
20. You may abandon your own body but you must preserve your honour.
21. Never stray from the Way.




"You must study this well."

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Friday, April 28, 2000

Mark Tripp - Combatives 3 (Level of Force)

 

 

Combatives 3

You are in the Judo Q&A Forum:
Subject: Combatives 3
From: MTripp
Date: 26-Apr-00 | 07:01 AM

We not get to a very important point in understanding combatives. In another post someone brought up the level of force issue. I want to deal with that here...

There are three types of combative training;

  • Police/Security/Correction Officer
  • Military
  • Civilian
The first two are specialised subjects we will get to. But right now I want to deal with the last one.

Level of force is something that trained officers mess up all the time. It also operates under the idea that you have force options (hand, stick, spray, gun, etc) to draw from. This is not always the case with civilians. Also it assumes you have back up there or on the way; this is almost NEVER the case with civilians.

Clearly the ONLY way to train civilians is to avoid and evade problems at all costs. BUT, if that fails then they are going to fight with brutal kill or be killed combative techniques.

It is NOT your job to get your drunken Uncle George out of the party. "Come along holds" are nothing more than standing submission holds and people who resist WILL get broken bones. This is why LAPD banned body holds years ago (and one of the many factors that led to the Rodney King problem).

It IS your job to avoid and evade problems. To that end we have created the 4 rules. These are not the four suggestions or the four it would be nice if you did this.

If you are going to carry PPD's and train in real combatives; then you WILL follow the four rules or sooner or later you WILL go to jail or be sued. The choice is yours.

The four rules:

  1. I will not drink to excess and I will avoid ALL persons and places where people will be drinking to excess.
    Note: Watch cops sometime and notice how many people are drunk out of their mind and in trouble.
  2. I will not use illegal drugs and I will avoid ALL persons and places where people are using them or they are to be found.
    Note: We just had a murder up here because one druggie told a druggie buddy that his grandparents had money and no guns in the house. Druggie #2 went there and beat everyone to death with a hammer.
  3. I will avoid ALL ilicit sexual contact of ANY nature.
    Note: I am not just talking about strip clubs (that is covered in #1). I mean leave other peoples wives, husbands, girlfriends, ALONE. Stay away from hookers (both 1 and 2 are always around hookers).
  4. Stay out of the danger zone
Note: This means buckle your seat belt; eat right; don't speed; mind your own business; etc. In other words, do what is SAFE not what is DANGEROUS.

Now; READ THEM AGAIN! Now, one more time.

OK, ask yourself this. How much stuff on Cops would be avoided if people followed the 4 rules?

More importantly; following the 4 rules means you do NOT have to worry about level of force! That is the freedom it gives you!

Think about it; if someone lays hands on me; and I follow the four rules; what could it be other than a violent personal assault? It won't be a drunk in a bar (rule 1) or a jealous husband (rule 3). You can react with violent force as quickly as you can because you do not have to think about the situation.

"The wise man is sorry before rather than after. The man who is sorry before builds his life. The man who is sorry after spends all his time repairing it."

Next; selection of combative techniques.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: submission studen
Date: 26-Apr-00 | 08:54 AM
excelent

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Chzog
Date: 26-Apr-00 | 10:04 AM
Great!!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Absolute Storm
Date: 26-Apr-00 | 10:45 AM
I think that's a very sensible list, even if you're not interested in martial arts. Nevetheless, going out with my friends and having alot to drink is one of the best ways we student-types can have fun, meet girls etc. Although I rarely get very drunk, my friends often do. When trouble breaks out, I try to make sure I can restrain my friends or their aggressors without anyone getting hurt. I think this sort of thing is still a useful skill to have. (Ususally, I pin the person in question with a scarf hold).

Subject: RE: INFO
From: sundevil
Date: 26-Apr-00 | 11:35 AM
I don't really want to cause trouble on your Q&A, but it is interesting to see your opinion that submission holds can break bones. I read in a law enforcement magazine where a San Diego Police Officer put a pain/compliance hold on a protestor and broke his arm in two places. Obviously, he was sued. Great post, by the way. You can be accused of blaming the victim for pointing out such obvious truths, but the fact is, even in the U.S., with its high crime rate, you are not very likely to be the victim of a violent crime if you follow those simple rules.

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From: VinceB
Date: 26-Apr-00 | 01:26 PM
Handy advice. The trunkated version I got from Jimmy Woo. "You don't want to fight? Don't go to bars." And he's been right. Never had any altercations till I started working the door in college for extra cash. Broke rule #1 and yep, there's fighting. It's much easier to have keg in the house.... regards, VinceB

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From: Yeah
Date: 26-Apr-00 | 01:37 PM
Great Point Mr. Tripp, but what about Family reunions :)

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From: beau
Date: 26-Apr-00 | 02:37 PM
just great, no alchohol, drugs or hookers, 3 of my favorite things in life :) (j/k)

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From: croft
Date: 26-Apr-00 | 03:04 PM
Again, this series should be archieved so that it can be viewed in it's entirety even after it has slipped off the page. =^..^=

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From: MTripp
Date: 26-Apr-00 | 05:04 PM
Well... I have told the story before that I was asked to remove an "unruley" person from my late brothers wedding... I am still thought of as a jerk over that one. I don't go ANYWHERE in violation of the four rules. Period. Others may do as they wish.

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From: SSonnon
Date: 26-Apr-00 | 05:07 PM
Beautiful stated Mark.

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From: SSonnon
Date: 26-Apr-00 | 05:08 PM
or how about beautifulLY stated. (sheesh, all those yrs at the uni wasted)

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From: Absolute Storm
Date: 26-Apr-00 | 05:56 PM
LOL! I don't know the story about you at the wedding. Please tell.

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From: MTripp
Date: 26-Apr-00 | 07:34 PM
Oh man.... One of the women in the bridal party had a VERY jealous boyfriend. As you know the bridal party sits up front with the "pairs" of people. The boyfriend was VERY upset that HIS girl wasn't sitting with him and was making problems at the back of the room. I was asked to solve the problem. BIG ERROR!!!! In hindsight I should have said "Tell her to tell him to sit down or leave"; but of course I did not. Like a jerk I think this guy just doesn't know anyone and I invite him to sit with my guys... I get called everything but a nice white boy... I tell him to leave... He tells me what to do to myself (which if I could would solve a lot of problems). I tell him again to leave... He repeats the suggestion about an inch from my face. Soooooooo...... I remove him from the church. In the process he gets a broken arm; several serious bruses, and we break a glass door I shove his face through... The first one didn't break. Gene LeBell loves this story. It was 15 years ago and I am STILL a jerk in everyones eyes because of it.

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From: Chzog
Date: 26-Apr-00 | 10:26 PM
Cause you are a jerk =P

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From: Chzog
Date: 26-Apr-00 | 10:27 PM
But we love you anyway!! =)

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From: Absolute Storm
Date: 27-Apr-00 | 04:39 AM
That makes you a hero in my opinion. It has long been an ambition of mine to shove someone's head through a plate glass window. To do it in a church, at a wedding makes it all the more special. ( : Great story anyway.

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From: MTripp
Date: 27-Apr-00 | 08:18 AM
Oh yes; THEY thought I was a hero all right....

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From: Tony Bananas
Date: 27-Apr-00 | 11:44 AM
can you imagine the grandfolks sitting there watching this burly man toss a youngin' around at their precious lil' granddaughter's wedding? i would love to see some video footage of you smashing his noggin into, not one, but TWO glass doors! lmao! t

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From: MTripp
Date: 27-Apr-00 | 11:54 AM
No no; the first door didn't break; but the second door did. Actually this guy was about 23 and a "tough guy". He just picked a fight WAY out of his league. BUT; when all is said and done; I'M the one people think is the A-hole.

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From: Absolute Storm
Date: 27-Apr-00 | 01:14 PM
Because of this incident, or just generally? ; )

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From: MTripp
Date: 27-Apr-00 | 01:43 PM
In general; but the above is used as an example often.

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From: Absolute Storm
Date: 27-Apr-00 | 03:15 PM
LOL!

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From: JIMMO
Date: 27-Apr-00 | 10:59 PM
Excellent Post! Jim Olsen

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From: Sothy
Date: 28-Apr-00 | 04:24 AM
thanks, great set of posts



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